48 Votes (4.83 Moyenne) et 14.454 Vues  

McDonnell Douglas MD-87 (N291EA) - Dropping retardant on the Martin Canyon Fire east of Bellevue, Idaho, July 23, 2017.
/images/icons/csMagGlass.png moyen / grand / plein format

McDonnell Douglas MD-87 (N291EA)

Soumis

Dropping retardant on the Martin Canyon Fire east of Bellevue, Idaho, July 23, 2017.

Comments

Please log in or register to post a comment.

Fabian Dirscherl
great shot
CHRIS ROBEY
Anyone who is Type Rated in the MD87 like to hazard a guess as to why he is making the run in gear down configuration? Would not be optimal if he suffered an engine failure in this type of terrain...
Mark Thomas
...and I suppose they've studied the possibility of retardant running through the engines?
Nils RibiPhoto Uploader
Within seconds of finishing the drop, I noticed the landing gear came up.
CHRIS ROBEY
Thanks Nils!
davidlapworth
As explained in this link, the Gear Down increases drag allowing a steeper approach angle while holding speed down. http://fireaviation.com/2017/07/13/md-87-back-in-action/
ken kemper
Incredible Photo Nils.

most timely
ken kemper
Incredible photo Nils....most timely
faultheo
Very good photo, nice timing to get this shot !!
usaf12367
Cool
Rod Cramb
I'm not even a pilot, but if the aircraft is dropping retardant, it would necessitate a fairly slow speed. If the landing gear was up, would the speed not trigger stall warnings? That would explain the retraction of the gear after the run. Nice shot by the way!
CHRIS ROBEY
Hi Rod, have the landing gear down massively increases the amount of drag acting on the aircraft. I accept that the crew must have needed this drag (at least in the MD87) due to the steepness of the descent path for these particular runs. The danger is that in the event of an engine failure during the run, the a/c is left with only 50 per cent of it's engine thrust available in extremely hot and high conditions, which is very bad for climb performance. The last thing an extremely busy crew dealing with an engine failure (maybe even an engine fire) would need at that time is the massive aerodynamic drag of having an extended landing gear...I am sure they probably had an escape route picked out through a valley someplace!
Robert Seccombe
Flew them loaded with people not retardant. Could the turbulence caused by the gear being down aid in the disbursement of the drop? Maybe the extra drag allows them to keep the engines spooled up at the low speed; that way there is little or no delay in getting full power out of them if needed. Certainly the gear being down should an engine fail is not ideal but my guess is that the gross weight after the drop would be relatively low and would not present quite the problem and, it does come up.
Robert Seccombe
Ops, should have read Mr. Lapworth's comment. Makes sense to me.
JOURNAL DE L'ACTIVITE
Vous voulez une recherche complète sur l'historique de N291EA depuis 1998? Achetez maintenant. Recevez-le dans l'heure.
Date Avion Provenance Destination Départ Arrivée Durée
30-07-2025 MD87Cedar City Rgnl ()Durango-La Plata County () 19h55 MDT 20h58 MDT 1:02
30-07-2025 MD87Cedar City Rgnl ()Cedar City Rgnl () 18h57 MDT 19h36 MDT 0:38
30-07-2025 MD87Cedar City Rgnl ()Cedar City Rgnl () 17h44 MDT 18h36 MDT 0:52
30-07-2025 MD87Cedar City Rgnl ()Cedar City Rgnl () 16h36 MDT 17h20 MDT 0:43
30-07-2025 MD87Cedar City Rgnl ()Cedar City Rgnl () 15h40 MDT 16h19 MDT 0:39
30-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Cedar City Rgnl () 14h05 MDT 15h17 MDT 1:11
28-07-2025 MD87Grand Junction Rgnl ()Durango-La Plata County () 18h20 MDT 19h04 MDT 0:43
28-07-2025 MD87Grand Junction Rgnl ()Grand Junction Rgnl () 17h23 MDT 17h54 MDT 0:31
28-07-2025 MD87Près de Grand Junction, COGrand Junction Rgnl () 16h27 MDT 16h54 MDT 0:27
28-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Grand Junction Rgnl () 15h31 MDT 16h04 MDT 0:33
28-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 11h47 MDT 12h07 MDT 0:19
28-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 11h15 MDT 11h32 MDT 0:16
27-07-2025 MD87Près de Durango, CODurango-La Plata County () 20h10 MDT 20h25 MDT 0:15
27-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 19h33 MDT 19h51 MDT 0:17
27-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 18h54 MDT 19h10 MDT 0:15
27-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 18h18 MDT 18h36 MDT 0:18
27-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 17h37 MDT 17h58 MDT 0:20
27-07-2025 MD87Près de Durango, CODurango-La Plata County () First seen 15h47 MDT 16h02 MDT 0:15
27-07-2025 MD87Près de Durango, CODurango-La Plata County () 14h25 MDT 14h50 MDT 0:25
27-07-2025 MD87Près de Durango, CODurango-La Plata County () 13h48 MDT 14h05 MDT 0:17
27-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 12h42 MDT 13h02 MDT 0:20
27-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 12h03 MDT 12h22 MDT 0:19
27-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 11h21 MDT 11h42 MDT 0:20
27-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 10h37 MDT 11h00 MDT 0:22
26-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 20h07 MDT 20h25 MDT 0:17
26-07-2025 MD87Près de Durango, CODurango-La Plata County () 19h23 MDT 19h47 MDT 0:24
26-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 18h44 MDT 19h02 MDT 0:17
26-07-2025 MD87Près de Durango, CODurango-La Plata County () 18h08 MDT 18h16 MDT 0:08
26-07-2025 MD87Près de Durango, CODurango-La Plata County () 17h39 MDT 17h50 MDT 0:10
26-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 17h13 MDT 17h21 MDT 0:08
26-07-2025 MD87Près de Durango, CODurango-La Plata County () 16h46 MDT 16h55 MDT 0:08
26-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 16h14 MDT 16h25 MDT 0:11
26-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 15h41 MDT 15h55 MDT 0:14
26-07-2025 MD87Grand Junction Rgnl ()Durango-La Plata County () 10h51 MDT 11h31 MDT 0:39
26-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Grand Junction Rgnl () 09h59 MDT 10h33 MDT 0:33
22-07-2025 MD87Durango-La Plata County ()Durango-La Plata County () 14h24 MDT 14h51 MDT 0:26
Les utilisateurs élémentaires (l'inscription est gratuite et facile !) peuvent voir 3 months d'historique. S'inscrire
 

Se connecter

Vous n'avez pas de compte? Inscrivez-vous maintenant (gratuitement) pour des fonctionnalités personnalisées, des alertes de vols, et plus encore!
Saviez-vous que le suivi des vols FlightAware est soutenu par la publicité ?
Vous pouvez nous aider à garder FlightAware gratuit en autorisant les annonces de FlightAware.com. Nous travaillons dur pour que notre publicité reste pertinente et discrète afin de créer une expérience formidable. Il est facile et rapide de mettre les annonces en liste blanche sur FlightAware ou d’examiner nos comptes premium.
Abandonner