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Delta Reviewing $14 Billion Wide-Body Deal in Blow to Airbus

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Delta Air Lines Inc. is reviewing its wide-body jet orders amid signs that the long-range travel market is saturated, Chief Executive Officer Ed Bastian said Wednesday. (www.bloomberg.com) Plus d'info...

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FedExCargoPilot
FedExCargoPilot 11
Perfect opportunity for Boeing to bring back the 757 to the market
brocklee9000
Taylor Jones 6
I've read reports recently that airlines in general, especially U.S. carriers, have been growing too much (in the international markets) and getting too many widebodies, and that they need to reevaluate things. This aligns with the comments from Ed Bastian in that article. All I could think when I read it last night was the same sentiment: 757 replacement. Delta already has a large fleet of 757 and is slowly trying to replace it with the 739 (not a stellar replacement) and the A321. I don't know what gets discussed unofficially or behind closed doors, but I have wondered for years if Boeing or airlines have ever tossed out the idea of a next gen 757 or an updated replacement. There are tons of 737 and A320 family aircraft. There are many widebody international configurations. But no one really has medium sized long range yet still domestic niche.
boughbw
Brian Bough 3
Delta recently bought a 777 used for about $8 million. Wide-bodies are not holding their value well.
If I were Delta and had to choose between perfectly capable and decently-conditioned 777s for less than $20 million each but used or new 330s and 350s for far more, I might just signal that I'm wavering on the Airbus order and see what shakes out as available in used condition as prices drop overall. That would also include used 330s, but I am not sure those are being "dumped" at the moment by carriers that fly them.
It isn't a bad tactic. If it doesn't work, you still have your order in place for the Airbuses.
FedExCargoPilot
All I know is that Boeing and other US carriers are looking at this next Middle of Market airplane, and I am guessing its going to be a small twin (767-200) for the quick boarding times for transcontinental and transatlantic. That's really all I can know from sources. But widebodies add to operating expenses so I am not sure, and even more weird is that the 757-300 didn't sell very well.
tbpera
Tom Pera 4
indication that Boeing/Airbus orders in jeopardy... too many planes... too few fliers
khaiduk
Kevin Haiduk 4
I heard somewhere the opposite. Not sure, but I have even heard of people being forcibly removed from planes against their will because of oversold conditions! :-)
Tanman3880
Tanman3880 3
LOL!! Well played sir......
lbflight
Burke Files 1
The bigs jets are a saturated market. The 747 passenger jets are disappearing. They have been replaced by the A380 and the 777. I have seen passenger configurations for sale as low at 15 million and cargo configurations for as little as 2 million. The only other aircraft that is so cheap are the A340s. Owners of legacy equipment are stuck with the choice of more capital cost versus operational efficiency or less capital cost with less efficient aircraft. I guess it just depends on the frequency of use as to which choice makes more sense.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
If they were considering buying 380's they should not get the 380. 747 much better a/c.
yr2012
matt jensen 5
They mothballed the NWA fleet of 47's
tbpera
Tom Pera 3
330s and 350s at issue
nasdisco
Chris B -8
Can't shake the feeling that Delta is one of the weakest major carriers in the US.
chalet
chalet 1
You mean crappy Continental
blitzebill
Bill Christy 0
right now, Delta is ranked #2...

https://www.aol.com/article/finance/2017/04/12/americas-major-domestic-airlines-ranked/22035706/
yr2012
matt jensen -6
It is. Were it not for the NWA merger, it would have been reduced to a regional again. That merger made them a player, like NWA had been.
paulmart01
Paul Byrne 0
NW always on strike. Shoddy svc and unfriendly union flight attendants
glenver
glenver 1
NWA had their union issues but I never had a bad experience with them ever. To say their flight attendants were unfriendly never occurred with me. On a flight from MSP to LAS myself and the 2 seated next to me got free drinks and beers as "we have already sold enough". We had a seat behind the bulkhead and FA was in jump seat in front of us. And NWA had the most user friendly website for booking trips back in those days.I miss NWA - Delta is good but just a notch below what NWA was in my book.
yr2012
matt jensen 1
Exactly

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