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Private jet in crash that killed Bin Laden relatives came in too fast, report finds

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A private jet that crashed, killing three members of Osama bin Laden’s family, landed too far down the runway because it was travelling 40% faster than the recommended speed, accident investigators concluded. The Saudi-registered Phenom 300 jet smashed into an earth bank at the end of the runway at Blackbushe airport, Camberley, on the border of Hampshire and Surrey, on 31 July last year before becoming airborne again and colliding with several parked cars. (www.theguardian.com) Plus d'info...

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ColinSeftel
Colin Seftel 3
Full AAIB report here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/58259b42e5274a2562000024/Embraer_EMB-505_Phenom_300_HZ-IBN_12-16.pdf
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Interesting read, thanks for finding it.
jbqwik
jbqwik 1
Agree. Thanks.
bbabis
bbabis 1
The report stated: “It is possible that in these circumstances the pilot … fixated on his initial strategy – landing – and lacked the mental capacity to recognize that the approach had become unstable and should be discontinued.”

He recognized it. Hence the attempt to deploy speedbreaks on short final. He forced it to the ground with a panel and windshield so full of red flags he couldn't see any more. Going into a 3500' runway there was even less tolerance of deviation. What unannounced and unknown factor made him push such a bad situation?
yr2012
matt jensen 1
maybe he was being controlled remotely
bbabis
bbabis 5
More like he wasn't remotely in control.
freneticmonk
Keith Smith 1
Call me a tin foil hat man but it does sound too cut and dry. An experienced commander with 1,181hrs in the craft in near perfect conditions doesn't TOGA when it's not mission critical to land?
jbqwik
jbqwik 1
Agree, has me confounded too. At 150 kts he could have floated on around without much fuss.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Good question. Report said situation may have overloaded his SA. I wonder if back-seat get-thereitis may have been a component. We will never know

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joelwiley
joel wiley 3
So you are saying the flight went to the dogs due to the bark side of the force?

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joelwiley
joel wiley 4
I'd suggest starting here: ISBN-10: 0486408787

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joelwiley
joel wiley 0
My comment was in response to yours where you referred to 'maybe they failed to buy enough "UP" '. You responded to my reply about the 'bark side of the force' with "See Mr Wiley...there are times when we can be in agreement...let's work on that !"
To help work on that, I referred you to a well-known work of social satire. Our joint conversation has slipped away from aviation in this instance.

Back on the aviation subject, you contributed comments on 'stabilized approach'. According to the report, the pilot initially planned to land after the ultralight. The ultralight pilot suggested the jet land first. The pilot climbed over the ultralight and sharply descended. In your opinion as a pilot, how much did that action have to do with the fatal unstabilized approach?

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joelwiley
joel wiley 1
De mortuis nihil nisi bonum

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davidrbarnes
David Barnes 1
Let me lend some assistance with your challenges with Joel's remarks. And his remarks echo your own:

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=De+mortuis+nihil+nisi+bonum

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wingbolt
wingbolt 2
Thanks Petey, I appreciate your gratitude.
Dianthis
Gabriel Hoag 2
Wilbur Sanch-esq,

When every single comment you make gets downvoted, you think you'd take a hint.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
I did ask you opinion. Your answer was "I wasn't there...Dosnt [sic] sound like something I would do". I think your answer will do for mine, with the addition of an 'e' and apostrophe after proofreading. (we all make typo's)

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