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Emirates cancels order for 70 Airbus A350s

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Dubai's Emirates Airline has cancelled an order for 70 of Airbus's A350 wide-bodied aircraft, the planemaker says. Airbus said the cancellation had followed "ongoing discussions with the airline in light of their fleet requirement review". In 2007, Emirates placed 50 orders for the A350-900 and 20 for the A350-1000, with deliveries due from 2019. UK engine maker Rolls-Royce said the cancellation would lead to a £2.6bn hit to its order book. (www.bbc.com) Plus d'info...

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Moviela
Ric Wernicke 5
Emirates has a superior product, and needs a superior aircraft to deliver to passengers the service they are paying for. That is why the 777x order remains unchanged and the A350 has been ditched.

They also want to make money, and you can't do that with a "me too" airplane like the A350.

I think the only reason they keep the A380, a real money loser, is because it does satisfy the "My camel is bigger than your camel" mentality.
Cactus732
Cactus732 3
I'm not exactly sure of the facts on which you're basing your assessment of 2 airframes that are yet to enter revenue service. I suspect that it is the "'murica" mentality that a Boeing is automatically better than an Airbus.

A more sensible assessment of this cancellation is probably that Emirates do not wish to add another sub-fleet of aircraft for a mission that can be accomplished using an extension of a current sub-fleet.

As for the profitability of the "me too" (whatever that is supposed to mean) A350, we will soon find out how that compares to the current 777 when it enters service later on this year.
RRKen
Quite sorry, but Emirates president has been quoted on 11JUN as saying that they are making money with the A380. Would they like to make more? Of course, which is why they insist Airbus do more than think about an A380neo or something to that effect.
Av8nut
Michael Fuquay 1
Yep. They're the king of the 777. It only makes since that they turn those orders over to Boeing for more 777s.
yr2012
matt jensen 1
The A350's were supposed to be delivered soon - so obviously Emirates wasn't worried about losing their deposit. When are 777X supposed to be delivered?
flyingscotno1
flyingscotno1 1
I'd say as the public goes only the A380 and the 787 have any pulling power for passengers, can't see general peopl getting excited about a 777x like they do on the latter 2.

I'd probably say the analysis on this being not too bad for Airbus is fair. If they discounted them as Emirates was an early purchaser, then they'll probably cover the 70 jets quickly. It's a bit of a slap, but nothing they'll lose sleep over esp since Emirates is the A380 project.

Is the money on Emirates going to be a 777 and A380 only operator in a few years hence this call?

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Cactus732
Cactus732 3
I don't think that the vast majority of passengers have a clue what aircraft they're booking on, they're simply looking for the lowest fares to get them from A to B.

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flyingscotno1
flyingscotno1 2
Do you think a lot of customers pick aircraft or pick companies? I certainly would have no problem whether it is a A330, A340, 767, 777s. However I don't like Air Canada's high capacity 777s and would avoid them on a flight but would have no issues about BA's 777s- that's purely seat layout.
yr2012
matt jensen 1
I just don't like two engines, when four are available for over-the-water flights.

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yr2012
matt jensen 1
stevejsydney
Steven Jones 0
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Emirates cancels order for 70 Airbus A350 aircraft

Emirates’ order for 70 Airbus A350 aircraft has been cancelled.
Placed in 2007, the order for 50 A350-900 and 20 A350-1000 saw deliveries due to commence in 2019.

http://www.ausbt.com.au/emirates-cancels-order-for-70-airbus-a350-aircraft
yr2012
matt jensen 1
How much deposit did they lose - that they can obviously afford to give up?
treudte
Erik Treudt -1
I have heard they are preparing to place an order from Boeing for the 747-8I. Here is the news article, http://seekingalpha.com/article/2259943-boeing-last-chance-for-the-747minus-8i-or-just-leverage-to-force-airbus-to-develop-a-more-efficient-a380
TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 3
I can't picture them adopting a four-engined superheavy in lieu of the A350. The idea that Boeing will get orders for the 747-8 as a result of the A350 cancellation seems quite far-fetched.
treudte
Erik Treudt 2
I would agree, it just seems like the timing from Emirates announcement correlates to Boeing's struggle to maintain orders for its -8 which could be a negotiating point for Emirates.
yr2012
matt jensen 1
Wasn't Boeing just scarfing up all the 47's it could find?
ltcjra
ltcjra 0
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Emirates cancels 70-plane A350 order in blow to Airbus, Rolls

Airbus acknowledged it was disappointed with losing the A350's joint second-largest customer, but said it did not see any financial impact and that flight tests were on track.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/11/us-airbus-group-emirates-idUSKBN0EM0M120140611

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