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The toll on travel

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Visualization of FlightAware data showing global air travel decreasing as the coronavirus pandemic unfolds. (graphics.reuters.com) Plus d'info...

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ADXbear
ADXbear 27
Just like all of us.. be patient.. flying will return.. people will want to get away asap.. others will return to work, then plan extended vacations.. cabin fever has set in, we got a few more months to go..
crayanderson
C Anderson 4
I have a FlightAware ADSB receiver at my house in Central Florida. The range of my antenna setup is a radius of about 230nm. My usual 24hour tally of flights is between 3,800 to 4,200. On March 13, I tracked more than 4,000 flights. On April 1 the count was Less than 1,800. By the way, Sun’N Fun 2020 has been cancelled, so my April total will be far below the usual.
bristolgeoff
Geoff Davies 4
we all have to wait until this is over then we can get back in the air.that day will come i can hardly wait for that day now
RetiredCaptain
Jasper Buck 0
No need to wait. You can go flying now. Unless some local/state government entity has tried to close your local airport. But, in general, all airports are open and the ATC is functioning.
Hopnotic
C J 1
And unless the airlines keep cancelling flights.
N2903L
Fred Ogden 7
Yes, private aircraft can still fly. Private aircraft are playing an important role in delivering much needed medical supplies. The question is, is the pilot allowed in their state/city allowed to leave home and go to the airport.
timofthedeep
Tim Hollars 2
Like everyone else, my flight count has dropped by over half.
bstrenglis
William Strenglis 2
KDEN last Wednesday 2 people in security line. Could have rolled a bowling ball down concourse A at KATL and not hit anyone...amazing!
RetiredCaptain
Jasper Buck 3
HaHa. I am trying to envision taking a train from Washington D.C. (IAD) to London (LHR) or from IAD to Tokyo (NRT). I make those trips a couple of times a year and would like to continue to do so. You've been listening to AOC too much.

Best

J Buck
ATP DC-9/B-717, B-757/767
Airline Pilot(Ret.)
FAA Safety Inspector (Ret.)
FAA Aircraft Accident Investigator (Ret.)
Aviation Safety Consultant
Theodorewhitaker
Theodore Whitaker 2
Good info and thought provoking. However, I would like to have seen some USA numbers.
adlev
adlev 1
The sky’s over Los Angeles have way less traffic according to flightaware Flightradar24, and from reports from folks who have been to LAX and report a ghost town there. A high percentage of flights are Cargo and international.
Theodorewhitaker
Theodore Whitaker 1
That is a good thing - for lives anyway. May not be as good for the airlines. But, I don't think people are taking this pandemic seriously enough. I pray that states are not opening up too soon.
flightmark120
Mark Egan 1
Face coverings are a necessary protection for everyone. The numbers of people who have died make this virus a deadly killer. Individual rights are important to everyone. Everyone wants the freedom to live without fear of being killed by someone or something. Wear the mask, it won't kill you ... not wearing one might.
richardorgill
Richard Orgill 0
Waste of time to watch
jsteiner
Jeff Steiner 3
I found this post a lot more informative: https://bit.ly/2wOwpUS
geharper
geharper 1
I agree Richard. I was expecting real flight data.

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rboddy91
Rich Boddy -3
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electronpusher9
Steven monfrini -4
Really sounds like a Chinese agent. Or Russian. I believe Chinese. These folks murder people for their organs. They are the racist. Just look at the Durga,not sure how to spell.They preformed genocide on them. They will do this on the Urgar. The ones who helped the Chinese with this genocide.
electronpusher9
Steven monfrini -2
Looks like the Chicoms don't like my comment.
timofthedeep
Tim Hollars 0
Can private pilots still fly?
RetiredCaptain
Jasper Buck 2
Yes. As can Recreational, Commercial and ATP pilots. Not to mention the Light Sports crowd. Just took a look at Flightaware and its showing 2250 flights in the air in the U.S.. I saw Beech, Cessna, Piper, Boeing, Airbus, and a bunch more makes and models. Presumably some are being operated by private Pilots. My advice is go have some fun. Be safe. Practice social distancing while taxing and airborne.


Best (and please stay healthy)

J Buck

ATP DC-9/B-717, B-757/767
Airline Pilot(Ret.)
FAA Safety Inspector (Ret.)
FAA Aircraft Accident Investigator (Ret.)
Aviation Safety Consultant
msavidge
Mark Savidge -6
Perhaps it should remain this way permanently; air travel is one of the worst contributors of global warming greenhouse gas emissions there is. This is a good time to cut air travel and to consider trains instead.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 4
What form of propulsion would they use? Diesel-electric as they currently use? How does that train get to Europe from the US?
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 1
Trains get from Europe to the USA now by ship.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
Do you think that people would really take a week to go by train from Europe to the US? By the time they got to the US, they would have to turn around and go back. The fact that a flight from ATL to Heathrow is about 8 hours compared to a week means people would go by plane instead of train.
msavidge
Mark Savidge 0
Of course not for oversea flights, but where it’s practical. Even a diesel train emits far less per mile than a commercial aircraft.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
To carry as many people in a day that aircraft do, that would mean thousands of new miles of railroad track to be placed, just for passenger trains as well as a vastly larger number of trains to replace said aircraft. Trains would also always run, even when in station at a major point of departure. Aircraft can shut down an engine to taxi with just one, and most of all, axial flow engines (jet engines of all types) are more efficient than gas or diesel engines.
msavidge
Mark Savidge 0
I don’t know about axial flow engines, and I don’t think planes using one engine is practical.

The main point i was making is that a time of crises is as good a time as any to step back and re-evaluate what we’ve normalized/taken for granted, and perhaps could be made better. I realize the controversy of this on an airplane enthusiastic site, but I’m not suggesting getting rid of air travel, only replacing it where it could be done with more energy efficiency. We have the ability to build high speed clean rail between cities where practical, and ppl can hold virtual meetings in lieu of always flying. This applies to driving to work every day too.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
There are airlines that taxi from the gate on one engine and start it up as they are waiting in line for departure all the time. Four engined airliners could taxi on just two if they wanted. Axial flow is the path taken by air through an engine. All jet engines are axial flow. They are 100% efficient compared to rotating-reciprical engines that are found on any terrestrial bound vehicle.

While it is better to drive for short trips, say under 400 miles, over that, flight is the better option. Even all electric trains are a cause for pollution due to the generating stations needed to feed said lines such as the Northeast Corridor that Amtrak runs.
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 0
Sorry, but air travel is here to stay. Trains are not an economical alternative to air travel, or we would all be in line at Union Station to take the Super Chief to Chicago instead of at LAX waiting for a B77. The economy is that the B77 is already on its way back from Chicago before the Super Chief has left California. No one really has the time for intercity train travel. I love trains, I have a live steam engine and enjoy a good steam up. Trains are great in small towns like New York for inner city travel, and to get to the airport.
msavidge
Mark Savidge 0
I understand and I’m not suggesting we shut down air travel, only that a time of crises is as good as any to step back and re-asses what we’ve normalized/ taken for granted, and to consider investing in high speed clean rail when we can, and Holding virtual conferences in lieu of flying all over the place every day. Btw same principles apply to driving as well.
msavidge
Mark Savidge -2
I know a guy who (before all this mayhem) flew around twice a week ie: from boston to washington dc, all over, just to attend a conference or sign a book.
fredericlevet
Frederic LEVET -9
I hope that crashes like AF447 (Paris Rio) won't happen again after a lot of planes made for flying and not being parked have no Pitot probes uncovered
bobbolew
Robert Lewis 1
I would bet a weeks salary pitot tube covers are standard AND required for long=term idle aircraft. Besides AF447 did not happen because something happened to the airspeed indication system on the ground. It happened at altitude.

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