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Nord Aviation N-2501 Noratlas - Private

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Rebecca Shaffer
Awesome. Never saw one flying!
Alexander Scheid
Beautifuly plane. My CFI flew one as captain at German Bundeswehr in the Sixties. There is one at Technik Museum in Speyer (Germany) at Display. It reminds me at the must-see-movie The Flight of the Phoenix of 1965.
Alex Howe
The original movie "Flight of the Phoenix" used a Fairchild C-82 Packet, the remake used a Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar. Similar to a Noratlas in that they were twin-boomed military transports. I used to see C-119's and Noratlases frequently fly over my house in the 1960's
Patrice LLavador
I flew over Chad, Africa in the very late 60's, between "Fort Lamy" (Ndjamena) and the Tibesti in one of the French Military Noratlas. I remember we had to go one by one to the toilet at the very end of the tale, the last 10ft of the plane was lightly built to gain weight. In the cockpit it was a glass bubble on the top to navigate with the stars in case of instrument failure. Very emblematic plane of this period of time. Another plane very strange, the Breguet Deux Ponts, double deck Breguet, in service between Algiers and Paris in the 50's.
Lionel GAUDIN
I parachuted from aircraft
rbt schaffer
Even as a kid who built models in the 1960's, these things always looked like they severely struggled to stay aloft. So slow they seemed to fly backwards.... Some may argue
Jean CLAUDE BALTEL
Premier vol avec un atterrissage hors pistes et sans rien casser! C'était en 1959. Grand souvenir.
Robert Briggs
I first spied N9701F at the Santa Monica, CA airport in mid-1978, having just been hired by The Flying Tiger Line in Los Angeles. At that time it was owned and operated by Briles Wing & Helicopters. They had helicopter contracts up in Alaska and used the airplane as a mobile maintenance vessel. By removing the rotor blades, they could transport a Jet Ranger within the fuselage.

This was my first up-close sighting of a Fairchild C-82 Packet. Notably different with the twin-boom tail, and the post-military addition of a single Jet engine mounted on top-center of the fuselage.

Burnished on the left side of the fuselage, were remnants of the logo of TWA. Back in the B-707 days, TWA had owned at least two 'Packets', again serving as mobile maintenance vehicle, large enough to haul spare JT-3D engines, other parts, maintenance crews and their equipment, to service regions within Europe and Africa continents.

Fifteen years later, I had the pleasure of a re-introduction to N9701F at Hawkins and Powers Aviation, Greybull, WY. The Packet was one of a variety of older reciprocating-engine airplane types used for aerial fire-fighting that H&P used various missions. The airplane had the LARGEST supernumerary seating area I had ever seen, all located on the upper deck just aft of the pilot cockpit controls. The distance between the pilot seats were also much further than modern-day jet transports. Communication between the pilots was not enhanced with an intercom, resulting in 'shouting' requests to the 2nd pilot for power settings and checklists. I had the distinct pleasure to take training and fly her, earning an FA-82 type-rating on 27 September 1993.

Although not required for our lighter-weight flight training, we fired up the jet engine for demonstration purposes. Recalling that it was NOT powered by Jet-A, but rather the same 100-octane aviation fuel as the main engines, the jet ran some VERY hot turbine temperatures!

Following two separate incidents of wing folding, one involving a P4Y and another C-130, costs of complying with FAA mandates caused H&P to cease operations. Assets of H&P were sold to accommodate loans. N9701F was eventually acquired by folks in Hagerstown, MD.

While giving initial instruction to a new owner of an Eclipse Jet, student, I again stumbled across N9701F in November 2017 at the Hangerstown, MD airport. I doubt she is airworthy, last sighted north of the main Hangerstown terminal, where she may remain today.

Notes from my logbook include the following:

USAF Serial #45-57814; Limitations included 'Restricted to Private carriage of cargo – no cargo or passengers for hire' ; P&W 2800-CB-16 engines; Westinghouse J-34-WE-34 on top-mounted pod, with 3,250 pounds of thrust; Basic Operating Weight 34,000 pounds; Gross Weight 54,000 pounds with the jet operating; Gross Weight 47,000 pounds without the jet operating; Max. Landing weight 54,000 pounds; Vmc 91; V2 109; Climb 118; Vlo 113; Vle 130; Vse 105; Vb 140-160; Approach 110; Boundary 100; TWA Max. crosswind component 26 knots.
Ailin Barron
Mr Briggs if you google map the Hagerstown MD airport, there is indeed a twin tail boomed aircraft with what could be a turbine mounted to the roof, just to the north of the terminal. It’s not alone as there is a second twin tail boomed cargo aircraft next to it. Different fuselage shape. I would guess they are there for the museum, as there are parts of other aircraft in that same area of the ramp. No idea when the picture was take for google, but I would bet after 2017. Thanks for your story.
serge LOTH
Great team who made it flying again... The only one in flying conditions.
There was one version in Africa with 2 additionals jets engines for high temperatures take offs
serge LOTH
This one is from the previous Transp Squad 62th "ANJOU" based in REIMS until 1978.Then dissolved. It's expected to be reactivated ,normally in Evreux in 2021, Training Squad on A400M with GAF join venture.
serge LOTH
Jean Pierre : c'était au cours d'un meeting à Issoire?????? ou vol normal?
JAMES GLENN
Twin tails, favor the old C-119.
Jean-Pierre MARTINROCHEPhoto Uploader
Serge : j'ai pris la photo lors d'un meeting à Issoire (Cervolix / Ailes et Volcans) en septembre 2019.
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