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NY police: Landing gear part apparently from 9/11 hijacked jet found in Manhattan

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(CNN) -- An aircraft part apparently from one of the airliners that hit the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001, has been found in Lower Manhattan, New York police said Friday. (www.cnn.com) Plus d'info...

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skylloyd
skylloyd 2
It was reported that there were no marks between the buildings, where the gear was resting, I find that totally amazing !
preacher1
preacher1 1
As I said below, it also has a piece of rope around it. Funny how that got there. I guess we'll find out this next week.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
It was rope and not wire rope, right? They use lots of steel cable in multi story bldgs.
preacher1
preacher1 1
It looked like plain rope in the pic I saw, probably 1" or better.
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
over a decade later....just imagine how many people have probably walked right past this part.

Tangojul
Ted Johnson 1
If I recall, a tire assembly was found on the corner of Murray ST and West Broadway, less than a block away.
preacher1
preacher1 1
They are saying now it's part of a wing pylon off a 767 now, but it still has rope around it. ME supposed to try and remotely check tomorrow for human remains.
chaseperf
Charlie Welch 1
The rope may have been from the window washing apparatus that was snagged as the aircraft parts passed through the building. I hope the AC wasn't held together with 1" rope!
devsfan
ken young 1
I believe I read comments by authorities that the part landed on the roof of one of the buildings. The rope was used to lower the part in between the buildings to avoid detection by the public.
The part became wedged and those attempting to remove the part abandoned their efforts.
This seems logical given the lack of marks on either building. Marks such as gouges or scrapes
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 1
To quote Hillery Clinton, "what difference does it make now"!
preacher1
preacher1 1
Never thought about that.LOL
smoki
smoki 1
For Hillary it may make a lot of difference now as the people on the ground in Benghazi during the build up to and during the terrorist attack come forward and tell the truth about what happened there!
preacher1
preacher1 -6
Reckon it was planted, like he says in the story/ Probably no doubt it will belong to one of the planes. ? is, has it been there all that time and just got missed or somewhere else? There is unheard of opposition to that mosque up there and rightly so. I am surprised that somebody hasn't killed a pig and buried it there. That would stop it cold, so they say, and save a lot of lawyer fees.They threatened it sometime back when it was first announced.
joelwiley
joel wiley 3
Great conspiracy theory! But who had it, where did they store it, and how did they smuggle it out to safety? Better idea with the porker- no traceable serial #'s. Thanks Preacher. rofl
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
judging by the fact that they were back there surveying, probably for that proposed mosque, the buildings where probably abandoned..That would probably account for it going 11 yrs undetected...Seeing that that part landed there this site most be somewhat close to "Ground Zero" and was probably pretty much forgotten until now.
preacher1
preacher1 0
May be but they are showing pictures of and saying on CNN there is a rope around it. I really can't imagine what that would be doing there. Probably no doubt it came from the plane but that rope will make it very interesting.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Come on Wayne do you really believe anything you see on CNN?
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Was it a rope or a cable? I only saw it once.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, they won't really start digging but the rope is very clear in the picture so who knows. I want to hear their reasoning how it got there.LOL
Derg
Roland Dent -2
Maybe they need another reason to attack a few more muslims right? You USAers are really so trusting and gullible. Nothing personal Wayne but most of us outside the USA just cannot understand the loose ends surrounding 9/11. We have a 10 minute response time here for the military to intercept ANY aircraft that deviates from the flight plane and/or does not respond to comms.
pilotenthusiast
Well it was a bit more complicated then that. Having a 10 minute response time for the military to intercept any aircraft that deviates from the flight plan and/or does not respond respond to comms is great. But on 9/11 there were only 14 fighter planes on alert in the mainland 48 states. Also, NORAD was never prepared for a situation like this so they had no computer or alarm that automatically notified them of missing aircraft. So that created a communication mix up. Boston Center called NORAD 3 times, 8:37 am to inform them that flight 11 was hijacked, at 9:21 am to notify them that flight 11 was headed for DC when flight 11 crashed into the WTC 35 minutes earlier, and at 9:03 am to inform them that a Delta flight was a possible hijacking. Then at 9:03 am NY ATC notified NORAD that United 175 was hijacked and that was the same time the plane smashed into the WTC. NORAD did scramble F-16s from Otis Air Force Base in Massachusetts and F-15s from Langley Air Force Base in Virginia. None of them got close to the aircraft. Then you wonder why ATC couldn't find the Hijacked planes? Hijackers turned off the transponders so ATC had to search 4,500 identical blips crisscrossing one of the nations busiest airspace. NORADs sophisticated radar? Searched the continent for outward threats not inward. Up until 9/11 inward flights were not seen as a possible threat
devsfan
ken young 1
Actually there was more to it that that.
Military aircraft were erroneously sent out over the Atlantic. There was a communications gap between military and civilian authorities. There was a lot of "are you sure(s)?" being thrown back and forth.
The system went into total fail mode that day.
No one in the FAA nor the US Military wanted to believe that such a coordinated and well planned mass hijacking of US Commercial aircraft could ever take place.
Plus there was a lot of inter-jurisdictional squabbling.
The whole thing was a cluster.
We as a nation SHOULD have been prepared for this.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Thanks for that Ethan..you filled in some gaps that are not generally known.
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 1
Gracious, ATC never sent up alarms that day. Norad nor any one else is going to respond with out some request or warning from the ATC system.
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 1
I'm corredted
preacher1
preacher1 1
Common sense left here several years ago. Us older heads remember history, but the younger ones have no inkling of it, plus, while many parents fought in it, it did not decimate our countries as it did over there. As an Army brat, I saw a lot of it firsthand for 3-4 years and you have lived it but that did not happen here. Consequently, it's not that real to a lot of folks.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Most don't have a clue how quickly it can all change and to what degree. They think watching 9/11 on the news is as involved as it gets.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
I have often thought that Wayne, yes. On the other hand USA has always been active in wars on the other side of the planet. But the fact that you never had war at home since 1865 does go a fair way to explaining the laid back attitude. The world was not the same after 9/11 and shook all of us to the very roots, certainly changed my view on life.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Iremember that morning and I had my 757 loaded and fixing to head from FSM to PHX. Wasn't getting in a hurry because of the time change but was on taxi when the ATC 0 came down. Just turned around and back to the yard and took a week and a half off.
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
I remember that morning too....I was in school in Charlotte....All of Charlotte had shut down but our school decided to stay open...We were all talking about it and watching the news...Whenever we finally got out for the day Charlotte was like a ghost town and the drive from the school to my apartment felt very erie.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Don't remember how long after 9/11 but I was flying the Mooney to Chicago and the closest I could get was IKK, about 50 south.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Yeah, even after things started flying again, they were real Huffy. We had ANG ringing the Airport and inside the terminal with M16's or whatever their flavor. Now we got the TSA; for joy, for joy.LOL
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
At least they're not into GA----YET!
preacher1
preacher1 1
I've always wondered when they are going to make a run on that. It is more of a weak link than 121. Talk about expensive; take a field with
3-4 FBO's. mell of a hess.LOL
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
Well guess what??? They already have undercover people at TEB doing audits. Thay give me hell when my son waits for me to takeoff, he doesn't have a TEB ID. However the mailman, UPS and FedEx dudes walk right onto the ramp and through the hangars with boxex and don't get challenged...
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
That would end it for me!
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
What about the guys with long sleeve shirts, baseball caps and leafblowers. The can go anywhere and not be noticed.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 2
That's done by Port Authority employees at TEB
preacher1
preacher1 1
It would definitely put a crinkle in things.LOL
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
That makes me want to puke! Lol
canuck44
John Donaldson -3
" found behind the planned site of an Islamic community center near ground zero"...

Maybe they were planning on using it for a religious artifact...like the Shroud of 51st Street or something similar.

Fatwas will be issued for all posts hereafter that might hurt someone's feelings.
preacher1
preacher1 -2
Why hereafter? They can come on and meet my shotgun.
canuck44
John Donaldson 1
LOL...my mastiff puppy claims first shot at invaders of any persuasion here on the farm...she practices with a large stuffed monkey with a name you could guess. Not as deadly as your shotgun but certainly more painful.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly is a good man..I fully expect him to stand up to ANY political or federal pressure to disguise the truth.
Bogush
Bogush 0
now if this landing gear had been found in or near the Pentagon - this would have been real news
Bogush
Bogush -1
what about the rest of the plane - did it just vanish
NF2G
David Stark 2
It has only been 12 years and already you have forgotten what happened to those planes?

No wonder Americans as a group seem so stupid to everyone else.
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
"what about the rest of the plane".............wow

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preacher1
preacher1 1
Mighta knowed that'd be coming.LOL
Derg
Roland Dent 1
I like USAers....don't destroy my respect.
preacher1
preacher1 0
You guys are both in fine style this morning.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
Don't want Phil to feel unloved. It could hurt him emotionally. Lol
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 -2
Keep sayin it Phil. More and more are startin to believe. Congressman West from Florida certainly believes it.